IT LOCKS ITSELF

Seoul-mate · **Reply #30: September 07, 2010, 09:05:27**

Suffered the indignity of the car locking itself with me on the outside
and the keys still in the ignition on the inside, last Sunday.
I was trying to find an address in a rural area so I pulled over to get
directions from a guy working in a paddock. Turned the engine off,
left the key in the ignition, closed the door and went over to speak
to him. Spoke for a few minutes and returned to the car only
to find all doors and hatch securely deadlocked.
I had to call the wife who was about an hours drive away, and get her
to bring me a spare key. She wasn't happy.
Fortunately the guy woking in the paddock had a few beers with him and
as I waited for the wife he was happy to share some beer with me as we
discussed the qualities of the i30.

I have tried to replicate the situation (with spare key handy) but can't get it
to happen again.

Russ

Dazzler · **Reply #31: September 07, 2010, 10:47:28**

Hi Russ,

I can understand the wife not being happy. (an hour away

)

I reckon you were meant to meet that guy and enjoy a few beers...

I am a bit paranoid about that happening to me (like when I go to a garage for petrol)

I am real careful in the work van I have got at the moment. Fortunately, I cant do it in the Hybrid as it is a push button start and I just leave the key in my pocket all the time ..

eye30 · **Reply #32: September 07, 2010, 18:49:53**

Something similar happened to me when I first got mine.

The HALO had activated and when I stopped, opened the drivers door.

Door blew closed and all 4 doors locked but fortunately the hatch was unlocked.

Why this was unlocked I'm not sure and never bothered to find out.

Now I always take the key out

L30N · **Reply #33: September 07, 2010, 21:33:43**

I sometimes get locked out of the car at the petrol station if I leave the key in the ignition, which I only do when the missus is in the passenger seat so luckily she can let me in. I wouldn't normally do this if on my own for security reasons but do occasionally get out to post a letter and leave the key in. Must remember to be careful!

Dazzler · **Reply #34: September 07, 2010, 21:47:00**

I tried to lock the new hybrid the other day and it WOULDN'T lock

Turned out the wife had her spare key in her handbag in the front footwell..

Soon as she took her bag out of the car... no probs (clever eh

)

snowcherry · **Reply #35: September 08, 2010, 04:21:11**

once i accidentally left the keys in the car when i was getting some petrol, i went to open the passenger door to get my purse and it was locked!! oh no i thought i've done it now, the car has locked itself down. the weird part was though the drivers door was still unlocked!!
i was very thankful but it was an odd occurrence and i don't think it should have happened.

eye30 · **Reply #36: September 08, 2010, 18:43:24**

Quote from: L30N on September 07, 2010, 21:33:43

I only do when the missus is in the passenger seat

Get in the habit of taking the key out as 1 day she won't be there

bumpkin · **Reply #37: September 09, 2010, 10:01:34**

Quote from: eye30 on September 08, 2010, 18:43:24

Quote from: L30N on September 07, 2010, 21:33:43
I only do when the missus is in the passenger seat

Get in the habit of taking the key out as 1 day she won't be there

Yeah but you would notice if the missus wasn't there, that constant whine you have been worrying about will have miraculously disappeared

**Reply #38: February 21, 2011, 00:25:55**

Quote from: Seoul-mate on September 07, 2010, 09:05:27

Suffered the indignity of the car locking itself with me on the outside
and the keys still in the ignition on the inside, last Sunday.
I was trying to find an address in a rural area so I pulled over to get
directions from a guy working in a paddock. Turned the engine off,
left the key in the ignition, closed the door and went over to speak
to him. Spoke for a few minutes and returned to the car only
to find all doors and hatch securely deadlocked.
I had to call the wife who was about an hours drive away, and get her
to bring me a spare key. She wasn't happy.
Fortunately the guy woking in the paddock had a few beers with him and
as I waited for the wife he was happy to share some beer with me as we
discussed the qualities of the i30.

I have tried to replicate the situation (with spare key handy) but can't get it
to happen again.

Russ

Hi.

I know this subject is further discussed that, but it is one thing that always worried me (and worries) and reading old threads, I went through this and I want to give my testimony.

I had read somewhere on this forum or another, I'm not sure, but today I took the test.

I locked the CW, I called my wife and asked her to bring the key to the phone and press the button to unlock.

Guess what! It worked!

So I could ask him to carry on the button to lock.

Nothing! It did not work!

I repeated the tests two or three times. Always with the same result.

I hope I never need it, but so at least I can try this solution.

Try it. It may be valuable in situations such as reported by the Seoul-mate and prevent the movement of someone and waiting time.

PS: I put the phone in speakerphone (handsfree function) along the hood, near the fuse box.

Regards,

carib

Gibber · **Reply #39: February 21, 2011, 06:56:27**

Carib, sounds crazy enough to work! I suggest we all go try this for confirmation.

Sent from my HTC Desire

**Reply #40: February 21, 2011, 16:16:27**

Unless someone can offer a lucid explanation, this suggestion that a wireless transmission can be progagated by an telephone is well... the most rediculous thing I've heard for a while.

I know that a mobile (cell) telephone does transmit by wireless but we are here talking of another wireless transmission being received directly and retransmitted. This much is almost believable due to an signal overload perhaps intermodulating the mobile phone data (this is in itself fanciful) but at the other end... the receiving phone...what will retransmit the RF signal from this mobile phone that the car receiver can accept?

The receiving "end" of a mobile phone conversation does not retransmit any RF signal that it receives (unless I'm very mistaken) but instead simply extracts the audio data, reconstructs it and blows it out the speaker. Which part of this audio (now air pressure only) will be heard by the wireless receiver in the car?

Anyone know why I'm wrong?

A question for anyone who reckons this works: How far away was the calling phone/remote fob when the test was conducted from the car?

**Reply #41: February 21, 2011, 19:41:24**

Quote from: Pip on February 21, 2011, 16:16:27

Unless someone can offer a lucid explanation, this suggestion that a wireless transmission can be progagated by an telephone is well... the most rediculous thing I've heard for a while.

I know that a mobile (cell) telephone does transmit by wireless but we are here talking of another wireless transmission being received directly and retransmitted. This much is almost believable due to an signal overload perhaps intermodulating the mobile phone data (this is in itself fanciful) but at the other end... the receiving phone...what will retransmit the RF signal from this mobile phone that the car receiver can accept?

The receiving "end" of a mobile phone conversation does not retransmit any RF signal that it receives (unless I'm very mistaken) but instead simply extracts the audio data, reconstructs it and blows it out the speaker. Which part of this audio (now air pressure only) will be heard by the wireless receiver in the car?

Anyone know why I'm wrong?

A question for anyone who reckons this works: How far away was the calling phone/remote fob when the test was conducted from the car?

Agree completely with your analysis, this is a little like the famous ECU reset

Dazzler · **Reply #42: February 21, 2011, 20:11:55**

No offence but gee some of you guys are hard heads. :o. I know both the ECU reset (and more so the unlocking procedure) seem improbable but I think the only way you can debunk either is to try them yourself!

Not much point in trying the ECU reset on our (new) CW but we will try the remote unlocking.. I would be extremely surprised if it works but I'm not going to call Carib a liar..either way (his phone might be different to ours..)

Edit: just tried the unlocking this from one end of our large house to the other but even with a concrete floor and half a dozen walls between it still unlocked without the phone .. the range of the remote is absolutely amazing

(Will try and do a proper test later today)

Surferdude · **Reply #43: February 21, 2011, 21:15:43**

^

Yep. That's the issue Dazz. If carib tried his test from inside the house with his car outside the remote was just doing its job.

Lorian · **Reply #44: February 21, 2011, 21:24:51**

I think the remote should have a radiation warning sticker. Foor goodnessakes guys don't play with the thing while it's in your shorts pocket

rustynutz · **Reply #45: February 21, 2011, 22:52:05**

Quote from: Dazzler on February 21, 2011, 20:11:55

No offence but gee some of you guys are hard heads. :o. I know both the ECU reset (and more so the unlocking procedure) seem improbable but I think the only way you can debunk either is to try them yourself!

I couldn't agree more, Daz...

Shambles · **Reply #46: February 21, 2011, 23:04:33**

Quote from: Dazzler on February 21, 2011, 20:11:55

No offence but gee some of you guys are hard heads. :o. I know both the ECU reset (and more so the unlocking procedure) seem improbable...

Yep?

When I disconnected my tuningbox, I had an awful time the first time I started Fergie up. Felt like she was hunting for air. I guessed (and maybe posted up here) that things weren't quite right. Had to clear the ECU with a battery disconnect/reconnect before I got resumed performance. Been great since.

Though WTF my post has to do with this topic is anybody's guess

**Reply #47: February 21, 2011, 23:56:37**

Quote from: Dazzler on February 21, 2011, 20:11:55

I would be extremely surprised if it works but I'm not going to call Carib a liar..

I don't think anyone did that.

zeke45 · **Reply #48: February 22, 2011, 09:32:19**

Hi everybody.
I left my car unlocked while I got a parking ticket and as I got back to my car the bloke parked next to me came back to his car.I went to open my car door but as he pressed the unlock button on his remote my car locked.We tried it a couple of times and it happened each time but he could not unlock it with either button.

Surferdude · **Reply #49: February 22, 2011, 09:39:30**

Reminds me of an old Ford Telstar my son had. He came out to the car in the dark one night and started it, drove home and when he got there, realised he'd used the Club Lock key, not the ignition key.
But the ignition key wouldn't open the Club Lock.

Dazzler · **Reply #50: February 22, 2011, 09:51:48**

We tried Carib's "trick" today.. I was about 15kms away taking some photos of Trish's car..

Got Trish to ring me and put my mobile on speaker phone but no matter where I held the phone it wouldn't work(unlock the CW that is) ...Pretty much as "we" expected...

Carib.. How far were you away from the person pushing the remote??

**Reply #51: February 22, 2011, 13:48:08**

Hi.

I would not comment yesterday without further testing.

Maybe even a matter of distances. Or Cell Phone.

The first test was done in the following circumstances:

I live on the top floor of a tower with 12 floors, leaving the garage under the same building.

Let's say the distance between the command and CW was 40 to 45 meters. I know that in "open field" this distance is nothing for the command to open or close the doors because the scope of this plan is much higher, but with all the barriers of walls and ceilings, it would be asking too much!

To make sure that the phone was working, and not the scope of the command, I asked for, with the phones turned off, it was locked and unlocked the car. Nothing!

Today, I called my son, about 15 km away, and actually nothing happened.

I'll do more testing so you get a chance and see what happens.

For now gets me wondering: the same distance and same obstacles, opens but does not close! Why? And with the phone off nothing happened!

Regards,

carib

Dazzler · **Reply #52: February 22, 2011, 20:35:39**

It's a bit like Ghosts.. I haven't seen one but still got a (bit) of an open mind...

Surferdude · **Reply #53: February 22, 2011, 20:36:19**

Quote from: carib on February 22, 2011, 13:48:08

For now gets me wondering: the same distance and same obstacles, opens but does not close! Why? And with the phone off nothing happened!

Regards,

carib

Good post carib.
Re the above note, this is not unusual with radio signals. Think how your mobile can "drop out" even though you don't move from one spot. Then the signal comes back again.

**Reply #54: February 22, 2011, 23:22:34**

As I have been involved in scientific/medical research for about 35 years I don't believe in anything that lacks verifiable peer reviewed scientific proof. For Example:

1. Naturopathy
2. Homeopathy & Iridology
3. Pyschic Healing
4. Clairvoyance
5. Astrology
6. Ghosts
7. An afterlife (being dead is the same as before you were born)
8. Mediums/Spiritualism
9. A bottle with water in it deters dogs from crapping on your lawn
10. ECU reset

To name a few.

rustynutz · **Reply #55: February 23, 2011, 01:49:22**

You're a stubborn bloke, Mick....

Why not just humour me and do a bloody ECU reset!
If nothing changes, you can have the satisfaction of saying "I told you so".....

**Reply #56: February 23, 2011, 03:51:25**

When my car stops running perfectly, I'll give it a go

**Reply #57: February 23, 2011, 06:04:46**

Quote from: mick55 on February 22, 2011, 23:22:34

As I have been involved in scientific/medical research for about 35 years I don't believe in anything that lacks verifiable peer reviewed scientific proof. For Example:

1. Naturopathy
2. Homeopathy & Iridology
3. Pyschic Healing
4. Clairvoyance
5. Astrology
6. Ghosts
7. An afterlife (being dead is the same as before you were born)
8. Mediums/Spiritualism
9. A bottle with water in it deters dogs from crapping on your lawn
10. ECU reset

To name a few.

I'll start the queue... I'm behind Mick... you can get behind me. :arrow:

rustynutz · **Reply #58: February 23, 2011, 09:20:26**

So I take it you're both Atheists then...

agentr31 · **Reply #59: February 23, 2011, 09:44:38**

Quote from: mick55 on February 22, 2011, 23:22:34

As I have been involved in scientific/medical research for about 35 years I don't believe in anything that lacks verifiable peer reviewed scientific proof. For Example:

1. Naturopathy
2. Homeopathy & Iridology
3. Pyschic Healing
4. Clairvoyance
5. Astrology
6. Ghosts
7. An afterlife (being dead is the same as before you were born)
8. Mediums/Spiritualism
9. A bottle with water in it deters dogs from crapping on your lawn
10. ECU reset

To name a few.

LOLZOR!!!!! that list is piss funny

*places a bottle of brake fluid and chlorine on the lawn instead*

IT LOCKS ITSELF - IT'S MAGIC!!