Head to head: Holden Cruze Wagon v Hyundai i30 Wagon

beerman · **Reply #1: May 25, 2013, 03:20:02**

Smashed it......Not even in the game

Phil №❶ · **Reply #2: May 25, 2013, 03:39:54**

No surprise, really. Power and torque are nice, but not everything.

2i30s · **Reply #3: May 25, 2013, 06:00:42**

agentr31 · **Reply #4: May 25, 2013, 08:04:11**

im not even going to read that article, i already know the i30 is worlds ahead!

anyone else played with a new cruze?? and not the old suzuki one... the new one

Dazzler · **Reply #5: May 25, 2013, 09:43:19**

Quote from: beerman on May 25, 2013, 03:20:02

Smashed it......Not even in the game

..and I don't think it was mentioned but the i30 looks a lot better too ..

The Gonz · **Reply #6: May 25, 2013, 10:50:09**

rustynutz · **Reply #7: May 25, 2013, 15:04:09**

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Despite the lack of cargo net, the Cruze's bigger load capacity - 686 litres compared with 528 litres - is an advantage. But there's no difference in capacity with the optional spare wheel fitted, which makes Holden's decision not to fit it disappointing.

This is only with the rear seats up, with them down the i30 kicks arse....1642 litres of cargo space v 1478 for the Cruze....

Hati · **Reply #8: May 25, 2013, 23:25:17**

It's worth mentioning that the Cruze is a Daewoo. Arrives in bits to OZ, hence they still only claim to be "built" by Holden. Looks fancy, has a huge Holden badge that fools a lot of people into thinking that it is a genuine Holden. So no real surprise that it still is a P.O.S.

Priceless moments aplenty when people get told about the true name of that box of manure...

rustynutz · **Reply #9: May 26, 2013, 01:35:17**

Actually, the Cruze Wagon is fully imported....

But, is the Holden Cruze actually that bad or is just a case of people thinking it must be cos' it's sourced from Korea?

2i30s · **Reply #10: May 26, 2013, 01:58:25**

the Holden Astra and viva were both re badged daewoo's,and both need to have the head re built when the timing belt is changed.

a Friend of Sue's [the good wife] had a viva with the timing belt due for changing and was quoted by a dandenong Holden dealer $4,200 for the belt and reconditioning of the head including labour,at 90,000kms for an engine needing the head recoing,that's a joke. IMO.

hence the car was traded in on a new one not long after here enormous timing belt quote,but not on a Holden daewoo.

rustynutz · **Reply #11: May 26, 2013, 02:14:20**

I'm sure we could rake up just as many horror stories with Hyundai, Steve....

But, even if the Viva was a pos, does that make the Cruze a pos too?
The Barina is sourced from Korea too, is that also a pos?

Btw, Daewoo is actually GM-Korea these days....

Oh, and Astra was never sourced from Korea, as far as I know....

2i30s · **Reply #12: May 26, 2013, 02:27:16**

but the engines were daewoo sourced.

and Ive not heard too many horror stories about Korean built i30's.

rustynutz · **Reply #13: May 26, 2013, 03:20:17**

Quote from: 2i30s on May 26, 2013, 02:27:16

but the engines were daewoo sourced. )

In the Astra?

Surely they were Opel.....

Hati · **Reply #14: May 26, 2013, 05:58:41**

Rusty is correct, the Astras were all Opel. Which (the brand) just popped up under it's own name here.

Same make as Vauxhall that the Top Gear crew hate with a passion, for all the right reasons, i.e. POS.

The common thing is the GM umbrella.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #15: May 26, 2013, 11:44:38**

Is P.O.S. Public Open Space?

Hati · **Reply #16: May 26, 2013, 11:55:58**

No cigar Dave

Doggie 1 · **Reply #17: May 26, 2013, 12:06:45**

Close but.

The Gonz · **Reply #18: May 26, 2013, 23:47:25**

Yes, please close butt.

rustynutz · **Reply #19: June 10, 2013, 03:47:21**

Dazzler · **Reply #20: June 10, 2013, 04:01:28**

Thanks Rusty .. worth watching

Doggie 1 · **Reply #21: June 10, 2013, 08:35:11**

Tourer_Guy · **Reply #22: December 26, 2013, 07:42:36**

OK, so I had a quick look at the Cruze before ordering my new i30.

I thought the interior was nice, and the cargo area was good. It also had more power/torque. Problem was that the Holden dealership reckoned they couldn't sell me a manual one.

The Cruze didn't have as good fuel economy as the i30. Also, the Hyundai dealer offered me a VERY good deal to sell the car, whereas Holden seemed uninterested in the sale.

Bottom line, I thought the i30, for the price, represented a better overall package than the Cruze. I have owned several new and second hand Holdens, so this is a big change for me.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #23: December 26, 2013, 07:47:19**

You made a good choice. A Cruze is just a Daewoo with a different name badge. It seems one of the weakest areas of the car is the AC condenser. $1k+ to repair and NOT a warranty fix.

With the current disgruntled Holden workforce, I doubt quality will be very good either.

rustynutz · **Reply #24: December 26, 2013, 09:30:44**

Quote from: Phil №❶ on December 26, 2013, 07:47:19

With the current disgruntled Holden workforce, I doubt quality will be very good either.

Should have no effect, Phil....the Cruze Wagon is fully imported.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #25: December 26, 2013, 10:02:21**

Yes, I saw in an earlier post after I typed my response.

Indalsman · **Reply #26: January 01, 2014, 10:52:57**

Here in sweden the Cruze is sold by Chevrolet... A friend of mine had a cruze 2.0 diesel -10 and when I looked at the engine it was basically the same engine as Hyundai 2.0 CRDI (Santa Fe, Tucson, Elantra, Trajet)

When i looked it up on wiki both engines came from VM Motori and were named RA 420 SOHC.

List of VM Motori engines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Phil №❶ · **Reply #27: January 01, 2014, 10:59:50**

Asterix · **Reply #28: January 01, 2014, 11:22:03**

VM Motori is an Italian company

I thought Hyundai made their own engines, but it seems it's an Italian made. Not happy with that

Indalsman · **Reply #29: January 01, 2014, 12:12:29**

Quote from: Asterix on January 01, 2014, 11:22:03

VM Motori is an Italian company

I thought Hyundai made their own engines, but it seems it's an Italian made. Not happy with that

U-diesel engine 1,5/1,6/1,7 is Hyundais own engine and is from no third party or so. Those engines is so much better also!! The same goes with the new R-diesels too, all Hyundai.