Smoke on cold start-up with CRDI

BlueI30 · **Reply #90: August 20, 2010, 01:02:07**

Gday all.

Our CRDI has an intermittent problem of rough idle and blue smoke on cold start (ie the 1st start of the day) . We always wait a few seconds before starting . Just dropped into the dealer who found no error codes and checked fuses OK.
Wondering if anyone else has the rough idle symptom along with the blue smoke on cold start ?
Also wondering if it is possibly an electrical problem (an intermittent short ?)

Any comments/feedback appreciated.

Cheers
Dave

Shambles · **Reply #91: August 20, 2010, 08:04:07**

Do you always use the same service station for your diesel? Could be a fuel issue

bloodnut · **Reply #92: August 20, 2010, 10:41:11**

My wifes i30 is starting to do the same, sometimes the blue start up smoke is that bad, it's embarassing! Have checked fuses, just filled up from different servo, see how that go's. Got 45k service shortly, will speak to service department, no other problems, just the smoke issue.
I'm hoping its just a glow pug issue & nothing sinister!
Cheers Bloodnut.

Opa_1 · **Reply #93: August 22, 2010, 07:45:04**

My problem with this has reared it's ugly head again.

Seemed to ok for a while after the dealer replaced the Glow Plug fuse but noticed, particularly today as I had to move the car a few times in the drive way the cold start smoke back to where I was.

My dealer is in Coffs Harbour which a bit over an hour away and a pain to organise especially if they want it overnight again like last time. Thought I might talk to the local Tyrepower garage as they have a pretty god reputation and see if they are able to do warranty work. Be a hell of a lot easier at this point.

BlueI30 · **Reply #94: August 22, 2010, 08:29:06**

Quote from: Shambles on August 20, 2010, 08:04:07

Do you always use the same service station for your diesel? Could be a fuel issue

Gday Shambles .. yes, have tried different servo's

BlueI30 · **Reply #95: August 22, 2010, 08:31:37**

Hmm .. seems a few of us have this issue .. so there must be a common cause you'd think..

Dazzler · **Reply #96: August 22, 2010, 10:49:45**

I never had this issue .. Mine is for sale for A$19990 at www.gowanstoyota.com.au

2i30s · **Reply #97: August 22, 2010, 11:05:14**

there we go,hows that for re sale value. and 3 years old.

[ sorry about going off topic. ]

Dazzler · **Reply #98: August 22, 2010, 11:11:20**

Quote from: 2i30s on August 22, 2010, 11:05:14

[ sorry about going off topic. ]

My fault..

I better be careful or I will be shipped off to a Toyota forum...

2i30s · **Reply #99: August 22, 2010, 11:14:19**

Quote from: Dazzler on August 22, 2010, 11:11:20

Quote from: 2i30s on August 22, 2010, 11:05:14
[ sorry about going off topic. ]

My fault..

I better be careful or I will be shipped off to a Toyota forum...

agentr31 · **Reply #100: August 22, 2010, 12:28:20**

Quote from: Dazzler on August 22, 2010, 11:11:20

Quote from: 2i30s on August 22, 2010, 11:05:14
[ sorry about going off topic. ]

My fault..

I better be careful or I will be shipped off to a Toyota forum...

www.ozecho.com or www.austarletclub.com LOL

Dazzler · **Reply #101: August 22, 2010, 12:30:05**

agentr31 · **Reply #102: August 22, 2010, 12:41:37**

*agent backs away from angry dazzler*

Dazzler · **Reply #103: August 22, 2010, 12:44:25**

Opa_1 · **Reply #104: August 28, 2010, 02:47:53**

Ok, Smokey is smokeless again!

The mechanics at the dealer found the glow plug fuse to have failed again, as I had suspected. The cause appeared to be that the glow plug had been able to short against the cylinder head, they have adjusted this so with a bit of luck there will be no recurrence. Unfortunately I was unable to speak to the mechanic directly as I would liked to have had more specific information to pass on but after testing it out with several starts this morning I can say all is well!

Dazzler · **Reply #105: August 28, 2010, 02:57:48**

Good news (strange thing as doesn't appear to be a common issue..)

eye30 · **Reply #106: August 28, 2010, 12:50:46**

Quote from: Opa_1 on August 28, 2010, 02:47:53

glow plug

Does anyone know what the replacement schedule is?

agentr31 · **Reply #107: August 28, 2010, 13:34:07**

when they stop working?

Rof · **Reply #108: November 20, 2010, 23:08:53**

Hi Terry - think your car is the brother of mine car KT.

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I had black smoke coming out of my exhaust when starting the car up. Does it happen when you're driving and put your foot down? It did for me - I had this symptom. Eventual diagnosis of the route cause (fuel economy dropped, eventually lost power when using the accelerator) - uneven wearing of the drive plate. Resulted in replacement drive plate and new clutch. Apparently according to Hyundai Technical, there is a known fault with uneven wearing on some drive plates, hence finding the fault with a detailed search. They say the wearing on the drive plate may have contributed to the black smoke. Just a thought if you start running out of options...

Lorian · **Reply #109: November 21, 2010, 08:35:15**

Uneven drive plate wear is not something seen as a common problem here. I don't actually recall anyone reporting it.

Avoiding Smoke on startup needs the driver to understand they have to wait for the gloplugs to do their work and if the problem persists the dealer needs to check the plugs, fuse and relay.

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