[Asterix]

Don't judge too harshly until you get up close and personal with the car. And even then you'll walk away only knowing half of what makes up the car.

As for pricing themselves out of the market, they aren't aiming at Commodores, Falcons and Aurions. The Genesis is at and above the level of the targeted BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Lexus. All reports that I've read have always estimated base price around $60000 which comes under luxury car tax.

It also has 5 years/75000km inclusive servicing.

Doesn't matter how good the car is when you compare with those brands.

Most carbuyers in the market for a BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Lexus would never ever consider buying a Hyundai, just because of the name.
In many peoples mind a Hyundai is still a budget car, so it will take many years to get into that market even if the Genesis is significant cheaper.

I don't know! I think Hyundai has been around long enough now and has earned itself a pretty good reputation, I know a few European car owners who are already thinking about the Genesis and quite frankly the euro cars aren't all their cracked up to be.

AMG Mercedes are slightly better but our Holden SS, Calais, Caprice and HSV's are all on par with the euro cars now days ( especially the HSV GTS 430kw )  and people are starting to realise that the euro names are really just overpriced brand names whom in their own country are considered standard vehicles.

As cruiserfied mentioned we probably are judging a little harsh as the standard features and technology in the Genesis is quite amazing for that price really, not sure about the space saver tyre though but being a V6 they were obviously trying to cut down on weight in not overly important areas.

[Dazzler]

I am lucky enough that I could have afforded even the top Genesis model but couldn't justify spending that much on a Car (even $52 K was stretching it)

I'm sure the Genesis is a fine car and a bit better than my new one in the areas of NVH and Safety plus maybe a couple of other areas.

I think it will sell ok but I would never have forked out around 65K (drive away) for the base model...

[FatBoy]

I have to agree with Asterix on this.  Although we know that Hyundai make a very good product, and they are making headway into many markets, many people still see them as the "Cheap car".  They are making progress, but IMO it will take a few years to get any significant market share in the BMW / Mercedes market.  Again, just my opinion, but people that buy these cars don't buy them for the features, they buy them for the name.

[Phil №❶]

For us, this is an entry level car into a market as yet untested by Hy. I think that once on the road, there will be many very happy car owners, IF THE PERFORMANCE AND HANDLING LIVE UP TO HY STATEMENTS. One thing holding HY back is their lack of new development technologies. Without that, they will always be behind the Euro cars. They need to develop important features that other car makers would want, not just repeat what's already out there @ about 85% which is what early reviewer's are saying. They will fall short in the area of map updates for sure. The system employed, should use the best maps and it should automatically update, free and seamlessly whenever a new update is detected, I would expect this in a car of this standard and something they could lead other brands with.

I'd love to have a crash in one, only because of the body safety score, of course.

Personally, I don't care about brand names. When I cruise along the freeway in the Diesel, I smile and every time we encounter a hill, the Diesel catches the petrol car and passes it without effort. That's what is important to me.

Lexus is just a Toyota and they seem to be included in the upper echelon class of car, so no reason Hy can't be there too, but they have to come up with the goods.

[The Gonz]

You mention free GPS updates and I agree, now in an environment when an $80 GPS unit can include lifetime updates. Speaking of which, my 'integrated' Mio Moov A430 temporarily faded in 38 degrees yesterday, so I'm really tempted to chase a cheap upgrade that will automatically sleep when the ignition is off and will include free updates.

[Dazzler]

You mention free GPS updates and I agree, now in an environment when an $80 GPS unit can include lifetime updates. Speaking of which, my 'integrated' Mio Moov A430 temporarily faded in 38 degrees yesterday, so I'm really tempted to chase a cheap upgrade that will automatically sleep when the ignition is off and will include free updates.

Go for it, you only live once!  (as far as we know)

You mention free GPS updates and I agree, now in an environment when an $80 GPS unit can include lifetime updates. Speaking of which, my 'integrated' Mio Moov A430 temporarily faded in 38 degrees yesterday, so I'm really tempted to chase a cheap upgrade that will automatically sleep when the ignition is off and will include free updates.

Not exactly cheap but my Garmin 3597LMT sleeps automatically with free lifetime updates, one of the great features I like is the magnetic mount ( voice activation works sometimes if it understands you ) nuvi 3597LMT | Garmin

[The Gonz]

Nice features, Craig, thanks. A good start to my revisiting what's on offer.

[Dazzler]

Nice features, Craig, thanks. A good start to my revisiting what's on offer.

This one from Dick Smiths appears to be about the best value (with lifetime maps) I like the Garmins...

Buy GARMIN nuvi 52LM 5.0" GPS | Read Reviews | Dick Smith Online Shopping

I only paid $76.50 for the 4.3 Garmin Nuvi 40 with lifetime maps but must be superseded now...

Gave it to Trish for her car now...

[The Gonz]

Thanks, Dazz, getting into the right price range.

[Dazzler]

Named Autoguide.com COTY... I'm still happy I went with the Calais, but if I was looking at cars in the 60-70K range I would have considered it.

Hyundai Genesis Named 2015 AutoGuide.com Car of the Year » AutoGuide.com News

[Dazzler]

Bump! Rather than start a new topic thought I would resurrect this one.

I had a good look and sit in a top of the range Genesis yesterday. A white one with all the bells and whistles (in the showroom at Motors Hyundai Devonport) Didn't take it for a drive though as Kristy was busy.

Must say it is a game changer for Hyundai. Even getting out of my opulent top of the range Holden Calais it felt pretty special and very sumptuous. 

The fit, finish and comfort levels were mind boggling. Trish has a bad arm/ shoulder at the moment so she would have appreciated the powered open/close boot lid. Seats were softer and more padded than the Calais and all the interior materials seemed top quality.

Pity they are so thirsty or I might have considered one (when I bought my Calais)

Got into a new 2 Litre Turbo Sonata next to it afterwards and that felt very down market in comparison (under my Calais as far as interior ambiance was concerned) but obviously a lot cheaper than the Genesis and a bit cheaper than my car so to be expected I suppose.

[Wingerdave]

Nice car. Pity they don't sell them here. 

[Doggie 1]

They're not serious until they give us the V8.
I'd still take one over a Holden Cialis though.   

[Dazzler]

They're not serious until they give us the V8.
I'd still take one over a Holden Cialis though.   

 

[Doggie 1]