Gear stick doesn't feel that smooth when changing gear

Raid · **August 16, 2015, 12:19:10**

Would you guys recommend putting any grease in the gear as it doesn't feel that smooth when changing gear. I can hear some noise when changing the gear and suggestion plz.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #1: August 16, 2015, 12:21:52**

The solution is usually to change the gearbox oil. Do not use grease. Have it done professionally if in doubt.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #2: August 16, 2015, 12:33:24**

Mm.
I'm not sure because Grease worked really well for Olivia NJ with John's stick, I believe.

Shambles · **Reply #3: August 16, 2015, 12:44:21**

Get the gear cable linkages checked--- they may be too tight.

Raid · **Reply #4: August 16, 2015, 14:29:42**

Quote from: Shambles on August 16, 2015, 12:44:21

Get the gear cable linkages checked--- they may be too tight.

Will do shambles and my car is book for service soon do you think they will charge me just to check that cable?

eye30 · **Reply #5: August 16, 2015, 15:55:48**

It should come under the service heading which checks the operation of the gear box.

I had streched cables on my old Accent and they just altered tension during service foc.

Possible warranty item..

eye30 · **Reply #6: August 16, 2015, 15:57:42**

Quote from: Raid on August 16, 2015, 12:19:10

Would you guys recommend putting any grease in the gear as it doesn't feel that smooth when changing gear. I can hear some noise when changing the gear and suggestion plz.

Is it when you have depressed the clutch and feels as if there is something in the way preventing a smooth engagement?

Raid · **Reply #7: August 16, 2015, 15:59:44**

Yes something like that but it does go into gear no problem with that but I can hear a little noise when it's going into gear does any of you i30 make any noise when going into gear plz

AlanHo · **Reply #8: August 16, 2015, 16:05:33**

Mine makes a single clicking sound

eye30 · **Reply #9: August 16, 2015, 16:10:34**

What I do is when moving from 1 gear to another is when moving the stick out of gear, let the stick rest in neutral for a milli second before moving it into the gear you now want.

eye30 · **Reply #10: August 16, 2015, 16:11:12**

Quote from: Raid on August 16, 2015, 15:59:44

Yes something like that but it does go into gear no problem with that but I can hear a little noise when it's going into gear does any of you i30 make any noise when going into gear plz

Are the revs matched?

AlanHo · **Reply #11: August 16, 2015, 16:18:30**

Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:10:34

What I do is when moving from 1 gear to another is when moving the stick out of gear, let the stick rest in neutral for a milli second before moving it into the gear you now want.

How do you measure a millisecond mate?. Do you count to 10 or what ? Also how do you know when the revs are matched plz?

eye30 · **Reply #12: August 16, 2015, 16:22:11**

Quote from: AlanHo on August 16, 2015, 16:18:30

Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:10:34
What I do is when moving from 1 gear to another is when moving the stick out of gear, let the stick rest in neutral for a milli second before moving it into the gear you now want.

How do you measure a millisecond mate?. Do you count to 10 or what ?

No
Just move to neutral then take a very very very short pause then move again i,e. Do not got direct from 1 gear to the other but via neutral

CraigB · **Reply #13: August 16, 2015, 16:22:54**

@Raid, I think you are getting overly concerned with the normal noise that is made through shifting and the linkage locating itself, best to ask at your service if it sounds/feels normal anyway.

eye30 · **Reply #14: August 16, 2015, 16:24:28**

Quote from: AlanHo on August 16, 2015, 16:18:30

Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:10:34
What I do is when moving from 1 gear to another is when moving the stick out of gear, let the stick rest in neutral for a milli second before moving it into the gear you now want.

How do you measure a millisecond mate?. Do you count to 10 or what ? Also how do you know when the revs are matched plz?

Revs matched when you do not get a crunch or hunting/kangaroo motion from the car when car is in gear

Raid · **Reply #15: August 16, 2015, 17:58:59**

I think I will have to ask my dealer is its normal and I think I'm being a bit paranoid lol but thanks for all your help guys

Dazzler · **Reply #16: August 16, 2015, 23:02:43**

Try giving the gear lever knob a light sand with fine emery paper...

bumpkin · **Reply #17: August 19, 2015, 09:09:45**

Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:24:28

Quote from: AlanHo on August 16, 2015, 16:18:30
Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:10:34
What I do is when moving from 1 gear to another is when moving the stick out of gear, let the stick rest in neutral for a milli second before moving it into the gear you now want.

How do you measure a millisecond mate?. Do you count to 10 or what ? Also how do you know when the revs are matched plz?
Revs matched when you do not get a crunch or hunting/kangaroo motion from the car when car is in gear

Does the GD not have synchromesh clutch? Backwards step there.

diablo · **Reply #18: August 20, 2015, 02:30:53**

Quote from: bumpkin on August 19, 2015, 09:09:45

Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:24:28
Quote from: AlanHo on August 16, 2015, 16:18:30
Quote from: eye30 on August 16, 2015, 16:10:34
What I do is when moving from 1 gear to another is when moving the stick out of gear, let the stick rest in neutral for a milli second before moving it into the gear you now want.

How do you measure a millisecond mate?. Do you count to 10 or what ? Also how do you know when the revs are matched plz?
Revs matched when you do not get a crunch or hunting/kangaroo motion from the car when car is in gear

Does the GD not have synchromesh clutch? Backwards step there.

I just shift gear without being aware of it - I think my brain has delegated that function to my left arm.

Synchromesh is wonderful. I have driven things with worn out synchro and they were a pain, really had to get the revs spot on. Some cars had no synchro on first if I remember right.

Only problem on most cars was the linkage.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #19: August 20, 2015, 09:29:20**

With my previous FD and to some extent with my current GD, I need to focus when doing the 1-2 change to avoid gearbox notchiness but all other changes are super smooth with just a light "click" noise from one gear to the next.

Dazzler · **Reply #20: August 20, 2015, 11:40:16**

Trish's MY11 Petrol CW Manual (5 speed) was exceptionally smooth change (best I've ever experienced)

Her GD Tourer (6 speed Manual) is ok but not as smooth as the CW.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #21: August 20, 2015, 11:46:07**

One of the best gear changes I've had in a car over the last 40 odd years, I'd have to nominate a 1979 Volvo 244GL manual I once owned.
It was an absolute joy to use.

AlanHo · **Reply #22: August 20, 2015, 13:05:54**

My first car was an ancient Standard 8 - side valve engine and no synchromesh.

It took me a long time after I got better cars to stop double de-clutching on gear changes.

I recently road tested an automatic Venga - my last 4 cars since 2010 have all been manual but for the previous 20 years my cars have been automatic.

During the road test I pulled up at a junction and involuntarily pushed the clutch in - but it was the brake of course.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #23: August 20, 2015, 13:13:16**

There should be a footrest for the left foot. You need to well and truly keep it there whilst driving.

ibrokeit · **Reply #24: August 20, 2015, 14:35:01**

Quote from: AlanHo on August 20, 2015, 13:05:54

My first car was an ancient Standard 8 - side valve engine and no synchromesh.

So I am guessing it was a 40s post-WWII model.

Raid · **Reply #25: August 20, 2015, 14:42:14**

Quote from: Doggie 1 on August 20, 2015, 09:29:20

With my previous FD and to some extent with my current GD, I need to focus when doing the 1-2 change to avoid gearbox notchiness but all other changes are super smooth with just a light "click" noise from one gear to the next.

Yes doggie1 I feel it more from 1 and 2 and the rest is more smoother

Doggie 1 · **Reply #26: August 21, 2015, 09:58:20**

Quote from: Raid on August 20, 2015, 14:42:14

Quote from: Doggie 1 on August 20, 2015, 09:29:20
With my previous FD and to some extent with my current GD, I need to focus when doing the 1-2 change to avoid gearbox notchiness but all other changes are super smooth with just a light "click" noise from one gear to the next.
Yes doggie1 I feel it more from 1 and 2 and the rest is more smoother

That sounds pretty normal to me, Raid.

Raid · **Reply #27: August 21, 2015, 09:59:24**

Thanks mate and I'm used to it now and don't feel it that much now.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #28: August 21, 2015, 10:04:05**

In the GD, when I change from 1 to 2, as it passes through neutral I have to then pull the lever ever so slightly to the right. This makes the change smoother.
I'm not sure if this is a legacy of it being built for the left hand drive market, but if I pull the lever straight back, i get the notchy feeling.
I now quite enjoy trying to make it as smooth as possible - like a knife through hot butter.

CraigB · **Reply #29: August 21, 2015, 10:09:10**

Quote from: Doggie 1 on August 21, 2015, 10:04:05

In the GD, when I change from 1 to 2, as it passes through neutral I have to then pull the lever ever so slightly to the right. This makes the change smoother.
I'm not sure if this is a legacy of it being built for the left hand drive market, but if I pull the lever straight back, i get the notchy feeling.
I now quite enjoy trying to make it as smooth as possible - like a knife through hot butter.

Different to mine, I'll push mine firmly to the left and it's smooth from 1st to 2nd.