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I know these gouys are members on here but I just found this link and thought I'd post it.
Couple of good pics of their car.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/39462/hyundai-i30-wins-category-in-targa-rally/
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Hi Surferdude,

It was actually Targawest  (Western Australia) that is. Targa Tasmania is a bigger event in kilometres, days and car numbers (also being going quite a bit longer)

Razy has done us proud two years in a row and has investigated running in Targa Tasmania I believe (but being that he lives and works in WA it is a big ask)
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its a long way to tow a race car :eek:
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And as Razy said at our recent meeting in W.A. his major support with Targa West is the WA dealers and the Targa Tas has almost 2000 kms of driving over 5 days or more with usually about 300 cars (It is huge)
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Hi Surferdude,

It was actually Targawest  (Western Australia) that is. Targa Tasmania is a bigger event in kilometres, days and car numbers (also being going quite a bit longer)

Razy has done us proud two years in a row and has investigated running in Targa Tasmania I believe (but being that he lives and works in WA it is a big ask)

Yeah. I mis-read it. I knew about the Targa West but for some reason I thought this referred to Targa Tasmania. A seniors' moment, I guess. :-[
It isn't all that uncommon for WA rally competitors to come east but they are certainly in the minority.
And of course, plenty of eastern state competitors made the long haul west for Rally Australia for many years.
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No probs M8 (easy mistake for us seniors to make ) :lol:
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And as Razy said at our recent meeting in W.A. his major support with Targa West is the WA dealers and the Targa Tas has almost 2000 kms of driving over 5 days or more with usually about 300 cars (It is huge)

Daz how many K's is it to go around Tassie?
when i drove around it following the coast and looking at sights, it only took three day's did not seem like 2,000k t me they must be going further that one round trip?



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Hi john

If you follow the coast roads right around Tassie I think it works out at less than 1000 kms. The Targa course ha been modified considerably over the last couple of years but they do between 300 and 500 kms per day in loops (mostly) in a different part of the state each time .. that's where the 2000 comes from..

see here for more info...

http://www.targa.org.au/
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Bump...

It's official .. got a newsletter from my dealer today..amongst other things it says an i30crdi (that looks a lot like razzy's ) will be in Targa Tasmania this year :-)
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Thanks lorian.. I hadn't got that far yet (so it is Razzy and his wife) :-)

a couple of observations...

It is quoting the engine capacity as 2373cc (Hello!!!)

and the Targa West rally they were in before was called the "Quit" Targa West Rally because it was sponsored by the Quit Smoking campaign but it looks like they "Quit" the Targa West..  LOL
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Thanks lorian.. I hadn't got that far yet (so it is Razzy and his wife) :-)

a couple of observations...

It is quoting the engine capacity as 2373cc (Hello!!!)

and the Targa West rally they were in before was called the "Quit" Targa West Rally because it was sponsored by the Quit Smoking campaign but it looks like they "Quit" the Targa West..  LOL


There is a fairly strong backlash against the Shire of Chittering for deciding to not allow the rally to return to the shire for 2010.  Hopefully we can convince them to rethink the decision.  I've been signing petitions and sending emails to help the cause!


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Hi Guys,

Sorry for the long quiet period, but thing have been extremely busy with work and rallying.

Targa Tasmania is happening for the i30, we shipped the car last week and we will be flying to Launceston next week.

It is the same spec car as for Targa West, but with the standard sway bars due to showroom regulations.

I will keep you posted on our progres, the target is to be the first diesel at the end of the rally.

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Hi Razy..

I'm nearly as busy as you at the moment (long story) but hopefully I will get to at least one day of racing and one of the expos (so will be looking out for you)... :D

Whatever happens good luck (and safe driving)  :cool:
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go razy.  :mrgreen:
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Please make sure you spank the Mazda 3 Diesel for us.  :twisted:

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This is a link to the entry list.. Fairly impressive

http://www.targa.org.au/Competitors/entries.php
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It is quoting the engine capacity as 2373cc (Hello!!!)

Dazz, to accomodate a wide variety of engine types in motorsport, a formula was devised to make competing against a turbo/supercharged car more equitable for the normally aspirated (n/a) cars. So for a turbo diesel car to compete against a n/a car the diesel's engine capacity of 1582cc is multiplied by 1.5 to give a new adjusted capacity of of 2373cc. A Turbo petrol car's multiplication is factor is 1.7 and a Turbo Rotary is 1.8.
Hope this helps....
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Thanks Jase.. I didn't realise that! (only been following the targa for about 15 years) :-[
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i just learnt something new also dazz.  :cool: thanks Jase.  :razz:
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No worries Gentlemen,
I'm happy to share the very little knowledge I have.

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people involved in motorsport have a wealth of knowledge.  :cool: :razz:
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Please make sure you spank the Mazda 3 Diesel for us.  :twisted:

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Daniel, i'm not sure of the rules, but it's a lot to do with the driver as speed limited and they loose points speeding just i would expect awd would be easier, just the mazda 3 diesel is very new, it is also a very detuned 2.2 common rail with a very small turbo so would have lots of low end grunt. just Razy's car is or should be a lot lighter than a stock i30 CRDi, will depend how much mazda want the diesel to win, they might not care and might go more for there MPS, would also be how comited a private owner is they might just run one stock. but the motor has a lot of potential and they have 6 gears to play with diff ratios and so on and also could use a larger turbo if rules allow. but Razy has the benifit of more time racing with his car so that means a lot in this type of racing.




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Daniel, i'm not sure of the rules, but it's a lot to do with the driver as speed limited and they loose points speeding

Now I'm confused.
I thought the Targa Tasmania was a speed event. How can you lose points speeding on a competitive section.
It's not an economy run is it?
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I think John is confused ..They lose points if they can't match the minimum time.. they can be penalised I think for speeding on the touring sections (or at least fined by the cops) Not aware of penalties for going too fast on competitive sections (unless the rules have changed) they would be somewhere on the Targa site... :eek:
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I think John is confused ..They lose points if they can't match the minimum time.. they can be penalised I think for speeding on the touring sections (or at least fined by the cops) Not aware of penalties for going too fast on competitive sections (unless the rules have changed) they would be somewhere on the Targa site... :eek:

Razy mentioned there was a 130KPH limit in the Targa West , said if he exceeded it he lost points.
so tara tasmania no speed limit?
but i know what the roads are like down there in some parts, cold mix no advisory speed on corners so if you don't know the road you need to take care. will be a different ball game if no speed limit  i could not see a i30 CRDi coming third outright. but in Tassie its mostly all corners & hills  but there are straights just not long ones only the road up the middle Hobart to Launcheston seemed like a fast stretch, but tassie driver tend to drive 10KPH below speed limit here it's all above speed limit unless fuel prices are very high.
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