i30, 1600cc Diesel & BMW 1600cc Diesel... Amazing ? (UK)

alan2938 · **June 06, 2011, 05:26:33**

BMW Series One, 116d sport, diesel engine,

power =114 BHP, Torque =192 Ft/lbs.

i30 1600 cc 115 Diesel, 114 BHP, Torque + 192 Ft/lbs.

Are these similar diesel engines?

babis_xo · **Reply #1: June 06, 2011, 11:33:56**

Baaahh... Hyundai wouldn't lend the plans to BMW.

alan2938 · **Reply #2: June 06, 2011, 11:37:49**

I don't think Hyundai, make this diesel engine, it's probably made by a "Third party."

babis_xo · **Reply #3: June 06, 2011, 12:05:06**

I wonder if you're right... take a look:
http://www.mibz.com/2454-fail-pay-attention-to-detail-hyundai-ad-with-a-bmw-engine.html
Is it possible that the advertisers could have been so idiots to make such a mistake?

Or maybe Hyundai hired more ex-bmw engineers apart from their chief designer

alan2938 · **Reply #4: June 06, 2011, 12:25:38**

babis_xo,

Looks as though you are right, thanks for the info.

babis_xo · **Reply #5: June 06, 2011, 12:29:54**

The matter is: who is that third party? (if there is one)

alan2938 · **Reply #6: June 06, 2011, 16:10:18**

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The matter is: who is that third party? (if there is one)

I don't know the answer.

Gibber · **Reply #7: June 06, 2011, 17:32:00**

Probably doesn't help in anyway but my last Ford focus had a 1.6 diesel unit which was a PSA engine used in all the French makes and BMW mini to name but a few.

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paul · **Reply #8: June 07, 2011, 07:03:25**

Shame everyone doesnt use the same engine, would make it easier for spares and service parts.
i still think the i30 looks good though, whatever engine.

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rustynutz · **Reply #9: June 07, 2011, 15:06:14**

Quote from: alan2938 on June 06, 2011, 11:37:49

I don't think Hyundai, make this diesel engine, it's probably made by a "Third party."

From what I've read, the i30 crdi diesel engine is all Hyundai's own work....

neptune · **Reply #10: June 07, 2011, 15:37:49**

Quote from: rustynutz on June 07, 2011, 15:06:14

Quote from: alan2938 on June 06, 2011, 11:37:49
I don't think Hyundai, make this diesel engine, it's probably made by a "Third party."

From what I've read, the i30 crdi diesel engine is all Hyundai's own work....

Hyundai's German designers of the i30 Diesel Engine

rustynutz · **Reply #11: June 07, 2011, 16:21:52**

I know the actual car was designed by Hyundai's German R & D department but was the engine designed there too?

BTW, the engine is built by Hyundai in Ulsan, South Korea....

alan2938 · **Reply #12: June 08, 2011, 13:08:18**

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The new, German-designed chain-cam 1.6 diesel is pleasant, quite lively and also reasonably relaxed on the motorway, geared to around 30mph per 1,000rpm in 5th.

http://add-booking.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/hyundai/i30-2007/?section=road-test

rustynutz · **Reply #13: June 08, 2011, 15:15:08**

Good ol' Honest John, with a name like that how could we not believe what he says?

And knowing the engine is apparently German designed has just turned me off my i30 a tad.... :-\

AlanHo · **Reply #14: June 09, 2011, 17:28:30**

Quote from: rustynutz on June 07, 2011, 16:21:52

I know the actual car was designed by Hyundai's German R & D department but was the engine designed there too?

BTW, the engine is built by Hyundai in Ulsan, South Korea....

!.6 and 2.0 litre diesel engines for Hyundai cars sold in Europe are made at the Zilma Slovakia factory next door to the KIA assembly Plant.

This factory produced 243,000 engines last year. Of these, roughly 100,000 were shipped just across the border to the Nosovice Czech Republic Hyundai assembly plant where the i30's for the Europe market are built.

alan2938 · **Reply #15: June 09, 2011, 20:41:43**

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.6 and 2.0 litre diesel engines for Hyundai cars sold in Europe are made at the Zilma Slovakia factory next door to the KIA assembly Plant.

This factory produced 243,000 engines last year. Of these, roughly 100,000 were shipped just across the border to the Nosovice Czech Republic Hyundai assembly plant where the i30's for the Europe market are built.

So, do BMW produce a similar diesel 1600cc engine, as well as Hyundai?

Gibber · **Reply #16: June 09, 2011, 22:30:47**

Quote from: AlanHo on June 09, 2011, 17:28:30

Quote from: rustynutz on June 07, 2011, 16:21:52
I know the actual car was designed by Hyundai's German R & D department but was the engine designed there too?

BTW, the engine is built by Hyundai in Ulsan, South Korea....

!.6 and 2.0 litre diesel engines for Hyundai cars sold in Europe are made at the Zilma Slovakia factory next door to the KIA assembly Plant.

Any idea where the 1.4s are produced?

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AlanHo · **Reply #17: June 09, 2011, 23:08:16**

Quote from: alan2938 on June 09, 2011, 20:41:43

So, do BMW produce a similar diesel 1600cc engine, as well as Hyundai?

The BMW 1.6 litre diesels are not at all the same - they have different bores, strokes, valvegear arrangement and turbos. However - the sump plugs just might be similar.

Dazzler · **Reply #18: June 09, 2011, 23:14:56**

Quote from: AlanHo on June 09, 2011, 23:08:16

Quote from: alan2938 on June 09, 2011, 20:41:43
So, do BMW produce a similar diesel 1600cc engine, as well as Hyundai?

The BMW 1.6 litre diesels are not at all the same - they have different bores, strokes, valvegear arrangement and turbos. However - the sump plugs just might be similar.

(I love it)

rustynutz · **Reply #19: June 10, 2011, 03:03:17**

Quote from: AlanHo on June 09, 2011, 17:28:30

Quote from: rustynutz on June 07, 2011, 16:21:52
I know the actual car was designed by Hyundai's German R & D department but was the engine designed there too?

BTW, the engine is built by Hyundai in Ulsan, South Korea....

!.6 and 2.0 litre diesel engines for Hyundai cars sold in Europe are made at the Zilma Slovakia factory next door to the KIA assembly Plant.

This factory produced 243,000 engines last year. Of these, roughly 100,000 were shipped just across the border to the Nosovice Czech Republic Hyundai assembly plant where the i30's for the Europe market are built.

So that's the European market accounted for, do you know what country our Aussie i30 diesel engines are coming from ? I know Hyundai build diesel engines at their Ulsan factory so am assuming there....

alan2938 · **Reply #20: June 10, 2011, 07:31:35**

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The BMW 1.6 litre diesels are not at all the same - they have different bores, strokes, valvegear arrangement and turbos. However - the sump plugs just might be similar.

Going back to my original post :

Both Hyundai & BMW are 1600cc diesel engines, both have the same BHP and the same torque!

I find it difficult to imagine that the above engines are produced by two companies. It seems a waist of resources ?

alan2938 · **Reply #21: June 13, 2011, 10:48:03**

Info:

The original diesel engines in Hyundi cars were manufactured by Detroit Diesels, a subsidiary of General Motors, in the U.S.A.

Hyundai have now developed their own range of car engines which they manufacture themselves.

The developed engines are based on the original engines built by Detroit Diesels.

babis_xo · **Reply #22: June 14, 2011, 11:50:07**

^

It's getting better and better

babis_xo · **Reply #23: June 14, 2011, 11:52:52**

Quote from: Gibber on June 09, 2011, 22:30:47

Quote from: AlanHo on June 09, 2011, 17:28:30
!.6 and 2.0 litre diesel engines for Hyundai cars sold in Europe are made at the Zilma Slovakia factory next door to the KIA assembly Plant.

Any idea where the 1.4s are produced?

Zilina Slovakia as well

Gibber · **Reply #24: June 14, 2011, 16:24:37**

Quote from: babis_xo on June 14, 2011, 11:52:52

Quote from: Gibber on June 09, 2011, 22:30:47
Quote from: AlanHo on June 09, 2011, 17:28:30
!.6 and 2.0 litre diesel engines for Hyundai cars sold in Europe are made at the Zilma Slovakia factory next door to the KIA assembly Plant.

Any idea where the 1.4s are produced?
Zilina Slovakia as well

Thanks Babis, always nice to know where the heart comes from.

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