[Lakes]

You might not think there is much, but allow....

The light steering maybe just makes it feel that way, I understand were your coming from Lakes. POssibly why they have made the steering feel so easy, to reduce the strain of having to manoeuvre a large vehicle

The i40 has more turns lock to lock than the i30 so this just means less direct & lighter steering but i prefer more direct heavier steering as i can feel when i'm loosing traction or control. if you ever drove the old power steering cars they had very very light steering but no feel at all. but everyone is different. some think i30 don't steer well but i'm used to my i30 & have no problem with it.

[Lakes]

Hi Dave, just reading your experience with Hy dealer. sounds like one to avoid.
in carsguide in last weekends paper. they had a comparition VW?? wagon ( larger than golf? ) & Hyundai i40 the VW won but only just & the price was about same for i40 as was for VW. i think they had $45,000 ? VW seem to be going well here in Sydney judging by the number on the roads. they also just opened up a new very large factory in Sydney too.but don't ask me what its used for?
personaly i'll never own another new VW.

[eye30]

When I first walked in, no one got up to come to talk to me although they saw me walk in. I had to ask the receptionist to get someone for me to speak to. There was no offer to come and look at my car, no offer of a drive of theirs.

I wouldn't be going back to that dealership again. 

They would have lost my custom forever, even if they did offer the best VFM in town.

[2i30s]

Well I bought the car from them but didn't go back for servicing.
The dealer principal was made aware of everything at the time because I filled out their customer satisfaction questionnaire and told them all.

  i would have made a copy of the customer satisfaction form and posted it to Hyundai Australia's head office,coupled to a hand written letter with my observations of their service procedures. 

[2i30s]

back on topic.    i wouldn't buy an i40 even though they look and seem to perform nicely because we've downsized from large cars, to the i30's.  but the i40 does look nice. 

[Dazzler]

We bought a fairly schmick 2002 Elantra with 17" alloys and a bodykit etc which we only ended up keeping about 3 months in 2007/2008. The Saleman was full of sh1t and we ended up finding lots of silly faults with it which were not attended to very promptly or effectively. I sent a scathing letter of complaint to the Owner/Manager of the Honda Dealership where I got it from but never heard a peep (I wonder if it ever got to him?)

Back on topic..

I/we have mostly had small to medium cars over the years (driven predominantly by fuel economy concerns but also because they are generally more fun to drive) 

However, as I/We have got older the ride and comfort afforded by a slightly larger car is more appealing and our Hybrid and the i40 Diesel still offer small car economy with a reasonably spirited driving experience 

[Doggie 1]

@db08

what was the name of the dealer that you are talking about...just so that I don't go there......

thanks Dave

DVG

[neptune]

@db08

what was the name of the dealer that you are talking about...just so that I don't go there......

thanks Dave

DVG

Which branch Dave...as there is one near my place

[Doggie 1]

Midland.

[Doggie 1]

I called in to John Hughes Hyundai today and honestly, I know people have mixed opinions about dealers etc but the difference from the other dealership was like chalk and cheese.
As soon as you walk in you have service from the first person you speak to and they don't leave you until they've introduced you to the person you need to speak to.
It's what J.H. expects & demands, I know, which is why they do it cos they value their jobs, but the contrast was unbelievable. Nothing was too much trouble.
Having said that, I looked at a base model i40 (Active) diesel auto demo (they don't have a manual in stock) but couldn't drive it because someone had gone walkabout with the keys and it was locked, but they had another new unlocked one there that I had a good look at. I really like it, and I like the idea of the 6 speed manual.
I tried really hard not to look at the top-of-the-range Premium on the showroom floor.
But I did.
I stopped and bought a Lotto ticket on the way home.
Dave

[Dazzler]

   Nice aren't they Dave.. But the premium is nice in most of the new models ..

I find the iX35 a bit ugly but I was sitting in a top of the Range iX35 Diesel Highlander while i was chatting with the salesman today and even though the leather seats are firm it was still a nice place to be with the full moon roof and all the other bells and whistles 

[Doggie 1]

Now what were you doing chatting to the dealer today Dazz?
Is there a change in the pipeline?

[Dazzler]

Now what were you doing chatting to the dealer today Dazz?
Is there a change in the pipeline?

Just doing research for you and the club in general.. I posted a bit in the accent thread.. They are going to ring me when they have a Diesel i40 and/or Accent avilable 

I still love my Hybrid (reckon I might even keep it 4 years)  (2 years old next month)

But at this stage i40 Diesel is on my very short list of possible replacements

[neptune]

  Nice aren't they Dave.. But the premium is nice in most of the new models ..

I find the iX35 a bit ugly but I was sitting in a top of the Range iX35 Diesel Highlander while i was chatting with the salesman today and even though the leather seats are firm it was still a nice place to be with the full moon roof and all the other bells and whistles 

I talked to a ix35 diesel highlander owner and was quiet surprised that they only get 600km to the tank.......not sure I like that

[Dazzler]

I talked to a ix35 diesel highlander owner and was quiet surprised that they only get 600km to the tank.......not sure I like that

Did he /she say if they top it up to the brim and run it for a while after the light comes on..

I get 900 minimum out of my Hybrid and still appear to have about 10 litres in reserve 

[Doggie 1]

Now what were you doing chatting to the dealer today Dazz?
Is there a change in the pipeline?

Just doing research for you and the club in general..

Lucky it's a Hyundai forum then, being as dedicated as you are 

[neptune]

I talked to a ix35 diesel highlander owner and was quiet surprised that they only get 600km to the tank.......not sure I like that

Did he /she say if they top it up to the brim and run it for a while after the light comes on..

I get 900 minimum out of my Hybrid and still appear to have about 10 litres in reserve 

all he said was that he couldn't get anymore than 600km out of a tank

[syecadelic]

Glad you've had a good experience at last db08

Hope you will be back to this dealer in the near future

you will need to test drive the i40 for it to 'sell the car' to you. The drive is so much nicer than the i30, and the i30 is a great driving car as it is.

The premium spec is unreal, however the active  is very well spec'd also.

Hope your future experience is good
Sye

[Doggie 1]

Glad you've had a good experience at last db08

Hope you will be back to this dealer in the near future

you will need to test drive the i40 for it to 'sell the car' to you. The drive is so much nicer than the i30, and the i30 is a great driving car as it is.

The premium spec is unreal, however the active  is very well spec'd also.

Hope your future experience is good
Sye

Thanks very much - I'll keep you posted 

[Dazzler]

all he said was that he couldn't get anymore than 600km out of a tank

Auto only, 7.5 LPH with 55 Litre tank (that's part of the problem...)

[Dazzler]

Now what were you doing chatting to the dealer today Dazz?
Is there a change in the pipeline?

Just doing research for you and the club in general..

Lucky it's a Hyundai forum then, being as dedicated as you are 

I would like to see you in an i40 Dave.. I might even have to come over to check it out 

[Doggie 1]

Now what were you doing chatting to the dealer today Dazz?
Is there a change in the pipeline?

Just doing research for you and the club in general..

Lucky it's a Hyundai forum then, being as dedicated as you are 

I would like to see you in an i40 Dave.. I might even have to come over to check it out 

My shout for coffee 

[Dazzler]

Now what were you doing chatting to the dealer today Dazz?
Is there a change in the pipeline?

Just doing research for you and the club in general..

Lucky it's a Hyundai forum then, being as dedicated as you are 

I would like to see you in an i40 Dave.. I might even have to come over to check it out 

My shout for coffee 

Don't put the kettle on yet it would be later in the year or early next...

[neptune]

all he said was that he couldn't get anymore than 600km out of a tank

Auto only, 7.5 LPH with 55 Litre tank (that's part of the problem...)

It is strange , that something that big, has a fuel tank that is only 5ltrs more than a i30

[Dazzler]

all he said was that he couldn't get anymore than 600km out of a tank

Auto only, 7.5 LPH with 55 Litre tank (that's part of the problem...)

It is strange , that something that big, has a fuel tank that is only 5ltrs more than a i30

actually only 2 litres (officially)

[Doggie 1]

I called in to another dealership yesterday and finally managed to get hold of an i40 brochure (they are an endangered species I think).
I still haven't driven one but hope to do so, possibly this week sometime.
I also picked up the latest copy of EcoCar magazine and they had a (very) small feature on the introduction of the new i30 at the Brussels Car Show.
Personally, I don't like the colour of the car they featured (it looked very seventies to me) but the more I think about it, the more I'm probably leaning towards the i40.
One, because the fuel economy is similar to the i30 anyway and two, because although the girls have grown up and left home (do they ever, really??) which allowed me to downsize to the i30 in the first place, one of them is now producing grandkids (three at last count  ) and all three are in baby/child seats, so the bit of extra width of the i40 would be useful as we could leave the seats in place for when needed. It's a real pain putting child seats in & out. Especially with my back.
Plus there's the bit of extra room in the back too........
I was quite decided that if I do change to an i40 I'd get the (base) Active model with 1.7 Crdi, 6 speed manual..........but then, what always happens, I started thinking. 
Perhaps an auto might be nice now. And I do like those "bending, dynamic driving lights," and also the Premium has leather. And nicer (18") wheels, HID headlights, premium sound.....etc, etc. The Premium even has ventilated seats that blow air underneath you while you drive. I've always had to do that myself in the past, now they do it for you.
I don't think I'll be very popular though (what's new?), and the Active would do. 
Life wasn't meant to be easy. 

[Dazzler]

I guess your final decision will be partly decided by your budget at the time. THere would be a good 10k + between those two choices.. If the Auto wasn't much thirstier than the manual I could live with that too after the CVT in the Hybrid...

  Just had a look on the Hyundai Site.. .9LPH thirstier overall for the Auto and even more in Urban areas 

[neptune]

i40 Active petrol-$32,490....$2000 extra for diesel

Elite auto $39,490

Premium $44,490

[Doggie 1]

4.7 l/100 kms for the diesel manual
5.6 l/100 kms for the Active diesel auto
6.0 l/100 kms for the Elite & Premium diesel auto.

[Dazzler]

4.7 l/100 kms for the diesel manual
5.6 l/100 kms for the Active diesel auto
6.0 l/100 kms for the Elite & Premium diesel auto.

It is disappointing because the i45 Auto is the same as the manual I think 7.9 LPH