ESP and engine fault problem

**December 27, 2012, 08:27:58**

Hi.

Yesterday as I was starting out the ESP lamp came on (see video), the car would'nt do more than 10-20 km/h. I tried to turn the engine on and off, but nothing helped. I the switched off the ESP and the car was driving normally Again. After a few minutes i turned the ESP on Again and it worked normally. The engine lamp is still flashing and i will take it to the dealer's today for a diagnosis.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzUGApyFeE6DY3JlQ0xJa29CUms

/Jakob

Shambles · **Reply #1: December 27, 2012, 08:47:48**

That's the CEL (Check Engine Light) that's flashing - it's saying something's wrong (like you didn't know).

Do you have an OBD code reader? It would tell you what's wrong, or as you say get over to your dealer.

**Reply #2: December 27, 2012, 10:36:08**

Update. I am now at the dealer it Seems like the car has a lot of faults stored in the ECU. They have now spent a hour looking into the computer.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #3: December 27, 2012, 10:40:40**

Keep us posted.

Shambles · **Reply #4: December 27, 2012, 11:49:29**

Quote from: Wittendorff on December 27, 2012, 10:36:08

I am now at the dealer ... They have now spent a hour looking into the computer.

They'll find chips in there. Lots of chips. That'll be the problem - too many chips. Chip fest!

Yeah, do keep us updated

rustynutz · **Reply #5: December 27, 2012, 11:59:24**

I like chips...with chicken salt....

**Reply #6: December 27, 2012, 12:15:22**

Appreciate that my "danlish" can contribute to some amusement

. Done at the dealers, it seems to be a neutral switch malfunction among many faults that caused the problem. I am currently on vacation and will have to take it to my local dealer next week.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #7: December 27, 2012, 12:17:56**

At least you know what it is, we like your "danlish"

Doggie 1 · **Reply #8: December 27, 2012, 12:18:27**

Your English is 500% better than my Danish.

**Reply #9: December 27, 2012, 14:31:49**

And as the ending remark, the readout from the dealer.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=776D931FE20B7E7C!34060&authkey=!AHYb47at-xAbJYA

Quite a lot of faults regarding the only has done 7000 km.

/Jakob

Shambles · **Reply #10: December 27, 2012, 15:08:10**

Quote from: Wittendorff on December 27, 2012, 14:31:49

And as the ending remark, the readout from the dealer.

Quite a lot of faults regarding the only has done 7000 km.

Surprisingly enough, you only have the one current (pending) fault. The rest are historical. I've had "high voltage" and "low input" trouble codes recorded when I've reconnected the battery, though mine cleared themselves after a few engine starts (as historical ones should). I'm guessing quite a number of vehicles are driving around with historical trouble codes in their ECUs - it's the pending codes that stay current in the ECU and require attention.

Best of luck.

**Reply #11: January 02, 2013, 18:31:25**

Hmm the story continues.
Went to my local dealer today, no faults and no problems.
This evening as I was leaving a roundabout it suddenly wouldn't accelerate as in taking revs. No warning lights. Put it into neutral and it revved up fine. Back in gear and it drove on with the yellow auto stop light on. When I parked it idled at 1200 rpm.
I then restarted the engine and everything was fine.
When I drove back it all repeated it self once more except for the warning light.
I will take it back to the dealer tomorrow.

/Jakob

Asterix · **Reply #12: January 02, 2013, 19:03:50**

Hej Jakob

Did they replace that neutral switch..

There was someone in here not long ago who had problems with that switch, but I can't remember who, but it was also something about the engine, I think.

Asterix · **Reply #13: January 02, 2013, 19:15:52**

Found the other thread, it was about Cruise control failure.

But, I think it could be the one annoying you.

I'm sure the ECU can read if the car is jsut revving up in neutral or if the car is accellerating with load, i.e overcomming drag an moving the 1300 kg of the car.

**Reply #14: January 02, 2013, 19:57:53**

Quote from: Asterix on January 02, 2013, 19:03:50

Hej Jakob

Did they replace that neutral switch..

There was someone in here not long ago who had problems with that switch, but I can't remember who, but it was also something about the engine, I think.

No they didn't as there were no faults registered in the computer.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #15: January 02, 2013, 20:00:19**

When are Hy going to accept, that no computer fault doesn't necessarily mean no fault. Not happy Jan

Dazzler · **Reply #16: January 02, 2013, 20:19:34**

Quote from: Phil aka 84 on January 02, 2013, 20:00:19

When are Hy going to accept, that no computer fault doesn't necessarily mean no fault. Not happy Jan

**Reply #17: January 02, 2013, 20:34:46**

I don't think that there will be any problems with the dealer, I've done business there for 15 years and never had a bad experience .
I managed to get a small video of the problem and that should convince them.

Asterix · **Reply #18: January 02, 2013, 20:35:09**

Quote from: Wittendorff on January 02, 2013, 19:57:53

Quote from: Asterix on January 02, 2013, 19:03:50
Hej Jakob

Did they replace that neutral switch..

There was someone in here not long ago who had problems with that switch, but I can't remember who, but it was also something about the engine, I think.

No they didn't as there were no faults registered in the computer.

But in reply #9 you posted the printout from the dealer, saying ...neutral switch malfuction.....Pending

Doesn't pending mean, not solved..

Phil №❶ · **Reply #19: January 02, 2013, 20:39:21**

Quote from: Wittendorff on January 02, 2013, 20:34:46

I don't think that there will be any problems with the dealer, I've done business there for 15 years and never had a bad experience .
I managed to get a small video of the problem and that should convince them.

Be hard to argue with that, good luck

**Reply #20: January 02, 2013, 20:51:05**

Quote from: Asterix on January 02, 2013, 20:35:09

Quote from: Wittendorff on January 02, 2013, 19:57:53
Quote from: Asterix on January 02, 2013, 19:03:50
Hej Jakob

Did they replace that neutral switch..

There was someone in here not long ago who had problems with that switch, but I can't remember who, but it was also something about the engine, I think.

No they didn't as there were no faults registered in the computer.

But in reply #9 you posted the printout from the dealer, saying ...neutral switch malfuction.....Pending

Doesn't pending mean, not solved..

Yes, but the computer showed nothing today, which apparently means that everything has solved it self.

Dazzler · **Reply #21: January 02, 2013, 20:58:04**

Quote from: Wittendorff on January 02, 2013, 20:51:05

Yes, but the computer showed nothing today, which apparently means that everything has solved it self.

Now I'm confused.. I thought you still had a problem? (and if it has miraculously come good, for how long??)

Asterix · **Reply #22: January 02, 2013, 21:10:46**

Quote from: Dazzler on January 02, 2013, 20:58:04

Quote from: Wittendorff on January 02, 2013, 20:51:05

Yes, but the computer showed nothing today, which apparently means that everything has solved it self.

Now I'm confused.. I thought you still had a problem? (and if it has miraculously come good, for how long??)

Dazz, see reply #11, he still have periodical problems.

Dazzler · **Reply #23: January 02, 2013, 21:17:11**

Oh Ok .. they are the worst kind

**Reply #24: January 03, 2013, 08:24:32**

This morning all the initial faults came on again, so I was able to bring to the dealer while it was misbehaving.

The fault regarding the neutral switch was not present, but they replaced an electronic thingy and the car runs fine again.
Lets hope that this was it.

/Jakob

Doggie 1 · **Reply #25: January 03, 2013, 08:31:18**

Fingers crossed for you.

Dazzler · **Reply #26: January 03, 2013, 11:17:07**

Quote from: db08 on January 03, 2013, 08:31:18

Fingers crossed for you.

and toes

**Reply #27: January 03, 2013, 11:21:03**

problem game up again, the car is now at the dealer and I got a loaner.
pretty tired of this, one might think it's a frensh car in disguise.

Dazzler · **Reply #28: January 03, 2013, 11:24:42**

Quote from: Wittendorff on January 03, 2013, 11:21:03

problem game up again, the car is now at the dealer and I got a loaner.
pretty tired of this, one might think it's a frensh car in disguise.

Or even (god forbid) an Italian one...

**Reply #29: January 03, 2013, 14:40:25**

Had to visit the dealer again as the radio in the loaner (same as mine) refused to turn on.

As they fixed the problem (by disconnecting the battery), I talked to the mechanic working on mine. He told me that he had found a bundle of wires (the one leading from the ECU) that has been trapped under the engine protection cover. The cover had made several holes in the wires and he thought that this is the problem.

I will likely get the car back tomorrow and then we will see.