Injector rail problem for engine replacement from 09/07 to a 2009 engine

munro7389 · **Reply #60: August 23, 2018, 23:01:13**

All sorted. I had the 2 plugs around the wrong way. The grey and black ones on the solenoid lol. Silly me. Runs like a dream. Thanks

nzenigma · **Reply #61: August 23, 2018, 23:13:33**

Glad its sorted.

Dazzler · **Reply #62: August 24, 2018, 00:29:25**

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Paolo5 · **Reply #63: August 24, 2018, 01:16:41**

Quote from: munro7389 on August 23, 2018, 23:01:13

All sorted. Runs like a dream. Thanks

FABULOUS news!!!
Well done...

tw2005 · **Reply #64: August 24, 2018, 01:35:47**

About time.

glad you got there. Lessons to be learnt. I use my phone a lot these days to capture original configuration. Especially on a project that may stretch over weeks.

munro7389 · **Reply #65: August 24, 2018, 08:25:57**

Until the clutch just started slipping...frustrating. I used that spacer plate for the gearbox and bell housing too if that makes a difference. Clutch is only 6 months old

nzenigma · **Reply #66: August 24, 2018, 09:01:09**

Quote from: munro7389 on August 24, 2018, 08:25:57

Until the clutch just started slipping...frustrating. I used that spacer plate for the gearbox and bell housing too if that makes a difference. Clutch is only 6 months old

this may help

Injector rail problem for engine replacement from 09/07 to a 2009 engine

munro7389 · **Reply #67: August 24, 2018, 09:37:43**

Will that make a difference on how the clutch operates?

nzenigma · **Reply #68: August 24, 2018, 22:02:43**

yes in theory, pedal travel, cause slipping? probably not

tw2005 · **Reply #69: August 24, 2018, 23:23:41**

The plate has nothing to do with it. Mine has the plate as yours would have too. Slipping is related to clamping pressure between the pressure plate, clutch disc and flywheel surface and condition of those parts..

If the clutch was 100% ok and now not, what has changed?

Can you describe the actions and what is happening. How is it slipping? DO you release and it just slips, you release and it slips then eventually grabs, do you release and it grabs but slips under high torque loads?

I'm likely not going to have a solution but some more information may provide clues?

Were the surfaces contaminated during remove and install?
Was it reassembled exactly how it was?

Is there any free play at the slave / releasing fully?

nzenigma · **Reply #70: August 24, 2018, 23:49:04**

Quote from: tw2005 on August 24, 2018, 23:23:41

Mine has the plate as yours would have too.

??? on the manual or auto? I Have one on 2.0L auto but not on two diesel manuals. Not that it matters as you say.

Quote from: munro7389 on August 24, 2018, 08:25:57

Until the clutch just started slipping...frustrating. Clutch is only 6 months old

Its was ok then started to fail. Oil leaking onto plate. Forgot to tighten Pressure plate bolts.

tw2005 · **Reply #71: August 25, 2018, 00:17:33**

Quote from: nzenigma on August 24, 2018, 23:49:04

Quote from: tw2005 on August 24, 2018, 23:23:41
Mine has the plate as yours would have too.

??? on the manual or auto? I Have one on 2.0L auto but not on two diesel manuals. Not that it matters as you say.

Quote from: munro7389 on August 24, 2018, 08:25:57
Until the clutch just started slipping...frustrating. Clutch is only 6 months old

Its was ok then started to fail. Oil leaking onto plate. Forgot to tighten Pressure plate bolts.

April 2008 SX 5spd manual FD CRDi , same production version.

Are we safe in assuming the pressure plate bolts were torqued up?

Clutch slips
Insufficient clutch pedal free play
Adjust the pedal free play

Clogged of the hydraulic system
Repair or replace parts

Clutch disc lining oily or worn out
Inspect the clutch disc

Faulty pressure plate
Replace the clutch cover
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Clutch slipping
● Car will not respond to engine speed during acceleration
● Insufficient vehicle speed
● Lack of power during uphill driving

Insufficient pedal free play
Adjust

Clogged hydraulic system
Correct or replace parts

Excessive wear of clutch disc facing
Replace

Hardened clutch disc facing, or oil on surface
Replace

Damaged pressure plate or flywheel
Replace

Weak or broken pressure spring
Replace

tw2005 · **Reply #72: August 25, 2018, 00:38:46**

Think I'm muddled , I',ve removed reference to pull type.

munro7389 · **Reply #73: August 25, 2018, 01:42:23**

Don't think anything has changed. But only thing I can think of is it was an auto engine b4 hand. When I fixed the vacuum problem it was running sweet. So taking it for a test drive the clutch was fine at high revs. Taking off and changing gears is fine. Just when you are driving when you put your foot down you can feel it slipping as in revs high but not going anywhere.
Everything seems quiet tight nip.

nzenigma · **Reply #74: August 25, 2018, 01:57:41**

Quote from: munro7389 on August 25, 2018, 01:42:23

only thing I can think of is it was an auto engine b4 hand.

Same engine used for auto and manual. That's why a flywheel fits where the torque converter was.

Its slipping under high gear load. Check that the clutch slave is fully backed off. Adjust to
add some freeplay if necessary.

munro7389 · **Reply #75: August 25, 2018, 02:06:22**

How do I adjust it and where from?

tw2005 · **Reply #76: August 25, 2018, 02:19:31**

Quote from: munro7389 on August 25, 2018, 02:06:22

How do I adjust it and where from?

A very good question. @nzenigma

To my knowledge only adjustment is the pedal height, I'm yet to find any other myself as I'd like to adjust my clutch due to partial release.

nzenigma · **Reply #77: August 25, 2018, 03:02:11**

Pedal height would be first , last shorten the slave shaft. But as you know, we generally get complaints that these diesels do not have enough travel. My brief reply was assuming that the clutch remains partially disengaged due to some misadventure . Back the pedal right off. Then he has to check for a bit of free play at the bell housing. eg Has the fork been fitted correctly.

tw2005 · **Reply #78: August 25, 2018, 03:17:17**

Quote from: nzenigma on August 25, 2018, 03:02:11

Pedal height would be first , last shorten the slave shaft. But as you know, we generally get complaints that these diesels do not have enough travel. My brief reply was assuming that the clutch remains partially disengaged due to some misadventure . Back the pedal right off. Then he has to check for a bit of free play at the bell housing. eg Has the fork been fitted correctly.

Forked if I know, could crack the bleeder too?

tw2005 · **Reply #79: August 25, 2018, 03:23:39**

Quote from: tw2005 on August 25, 2018, 03:17:17

Quote from: nzenigma on August 25, 2018, 03:02:11
Pedal height would be first , last shorten the slave shaft. But as you know, we generally get complaints that these diesels do not have enough travel. My brief reply was assuming that the clutch remains partially disengaged due to some misadventure . Back the pedal right off. Then he has to check for a bit of free play at the bell housing. eg Has the fork been fitted correctly.
Forked if I know, could crack the bleeder too?

I'm bunkered in for the rest of the arvo,

account removal page

nzenigma · **Reply #80: August 25, 2018, 03:42:06**

Enjoy

Dazzler · **Reply #81: August 25, 2018, 06:48:55**

Quote from: tw2005 on August 25, 2018, 03:23:39

Quote from: tw2005 on August 25, 2018, 03:17:17
Quote from: nzenigma on August 25, 2018, 03:02:11
Pedal height would be first , last shorten the slave shaft. But as you know, we generally get complaints that these diesels do not have enough travel. My brief reply was assuming that the clutch remains partially disengaged due to some misadventure . Back the pedal right off. Then he has to check for a bit of free play at the bell housing. eg Has the fork been fitted correctly.
Forked if I know, could crack the bleeder too?
I'm bunkered in for the rest of the arvo,

account removal page

I thought it was the Op's car that had the biscuit!

tw2005 · **Reply #82: August 25, 2018, 07:21:15**

Quote from: Dazzler on August 25, 2018, 06:48:55

Quote from: tw2005 on August 25, 2018, 03:23:39
Quote from: tw2005 on August 25, 2018, 03:17:17
Quote from: nzenigma on August 25, 2018, 03:02:11
Pedal height would be first , last shorten the slave shaft. But as you know, we generally get complaints that these diesels do not have enough travel. My brief reply was assuming that the clutch remains partially disengaged due to some misadventure . Back the pedal right off. Then he has to check for a bit of free play at the bell housing. eg Has the fork been fitted correctly.
Forked if I know, could crack the bleeder too?
I'm bunkered in for the rest of the arvo,

account removal page

I thought it was the Op's car that had the biscuit!