[eye30]

When is the election?

[rustynutz]

September 7.....

[Aussie Keith]

You do realise UM posted that same link a few posts previously, Keith? 

Yes I have picked a topic from it for further discussion and referenced the article in case anyone thought I was randomly sh!t stirring. Luckily that never happens here.

So what's your thoughts on the reasoning here? Are we looking at:

• Ignorance
• Lying
• Stupidity
• Someone else's fault the numbers I quote are wrong?

And are any of these reasons satisfactory for being wrong for something as basic as this? Given its looking possible he will get the keys in a few weeks I am predicting a train wreck of epic proportions once he gets the show on the road.

[Doggie 1]

Oh dear, we do have our knickers in a knot, don't we. 
It seems to me that maybe you are all a bit worried that Krudd is in for the chop he deserves and we'll get some normality and common sense back to government. 
I can't wait. 

[rustynutz]

Dunno if this has been posted previously.... 

[Doggie 1]

Wow, that wouldn't be biased website, would it? 

[Ugly Mongrel]

Wow, that wouldn't be biased website, would it? 

Just as biased as the Murdock press perhaps.

[Doggie 1]

Wow, that wouldn't be biased website, would it? 

Just as biased as the Murdock press perhaps.

I'm not quoting Murdoch press? 
And it's funny how Rudd didn't complain about the Murdoch press in 2007 when they were on his side.
Now they're not, he's running home to mummy and saying it's not fair. 
Oh, diddums.

[Just Rick]

Actually only looked at the first four words of the web site,then turned it off,because I knew it would all be simply one sided.
But I do have to wonder,I remember when the election date was first announced,young Tony came on the news and said,I will not be making any deals with the nationals or independants,to win this election,my questions is,are they not a coalition,without the Nationals are the Liberals going to pick up enough seats to Govern by themselves,just curious

[Phil №❶]

Tony Abbot is as mad as a meat axe. I said all along that the more he speaks the worse it will be for the coalition. It's all coming true. You couldn't possibly vote for either party, which is the dilemma facing Oz. What to do !!!!

[Doggie 1]

He meant he wouldn't form a minority govt with the slimy Greens or the independents, like Labor did.
The Liberal/National coalition is well entrenched and works well.

[Dazzler]

Did you see Krudd on Today Tonight?

Smug *astard ... I wouldn't wipe my *$$ with that guy...

Tony isn't doing himself any favours (the PPL and Boat buyback ideas are both) 

I'm not going to vote labour though or the greens (or United - their candidates down here are very ordinary)

[Just Rick]

He meant he wouldn't form a minority govt with the slimy Greens or the independents, like Labor did.
The Liberal/National coalition is well entrenched and works well.

Fair enough Dave,thats what I thought about the LNP but that is not what he said,either that or I heard differently to what others heard,maybe I'm just going mad

[Aussie Keith]

Oh dear, we do have our knickers in a knot, don't we. 
It seems to me that maybe you are all a bit worried that Krudd is in for the chop he deserves and we'll get some normality and common sense back to government. 
I can't wait. 

To paraphrase someone, parties don't win elections, governments lose them. That's how Labour got voted in and Johnny lost his seat isn't it. After being such a legend for all that time I mean.

I am hoping that poking yourself in the eye to teach the government a lesson isn't too painful. Alternatively it may be all butterflies and rainbows after the election. We can only hope that's the case whichever way it goes. 

[Just Rick]

Did you see Krudd on Today Tonight?

Smug *astard ... I wouldn't wipe my *$$ with that guy...

Tony isn't doing himself any favours (the PPL and Boat buyback ideas are both) 

I'm not going to vote labour though or the greens (or United - their candidates down here are very ordinary)

Talking Palmer United,now there's a joke party,one o their adds here just has me in stitches

[Dazzler]

Did you see Krudd on Today Tonight?

Smug *astard ... I wouldn't wipe my *$$ with that guy...

Tony isn't doing himself any favours (the PPL and Boat buyback ideas are both) 

I'm not going to vote labour though or the greens (or United - their candidates down here are very ordinary)

Talking Palmer United,now there's a joke party,one o their adds here just has me in stitches

I know the female rep for our area and she is ok but comes across real loud and rough in their advert 

(their adds are all very dodgy down here)

[Doggie 1]

He meant he wouldn't form a minority govt with the slimy Greens or the independents, like Labor did.
The Liberal/National coalition is well entrenched and works well.

Fair enough Dave,thats what I thought about the LNP but that is not what he said,either that or I heard differently to what others heard,maybe I'm just going mad

I heard him say that and then he called on Krudd to do the same, which he did.
No more minority govts - they don't work, as has been proven by the last three years.

[Doggie 1]

Oh dear, we do have our knickers in a knot, don't we. 
It seems to me that maybe you are all a bit worried that Krudd is in for the chop he deserves and we'll get some normality and common sense back to government. 
I can't wait. 

To paraphrase someone, parties don't win elections, governments lose them. That's how Labour got voted in and Johnny lost his seat isn't it. After being such a legend for all that time I mean.

I am hoping that poking yourself in the eye to teach the government a lesson isn't too painful. Alternatively it may be all butterflies and rainbows after the election. We can only hope that's the case whichever way it goes.

Well I think it's Labor's turn to lose this one.
Goodness knows they've done more than enough to be well and truly on the nose with the majority of voters over the past six long years.
So if the Libs win, we can blame Labor then, based on your comment above. 

[eye30]

I hear talk that the oz voting system requires all registered voters have to cast a vote and the paper gives you the option to not vote for any person.

Is that correct or can you simply not bother?

Also, non voters can be fined.
Again is that correct?

[Phil №❶]

That is correct. voting is compulsory for people 18+ years.
You have to register yourself at 18, onto the electoral roll, with you current address.
If you don't vote, you will be fined.
The ballot is secret, so it is possible to not enter anything at all.

Given that people have died for the right to vote in other countries, I am quite happy with our system. The problem is, that there's no one to vote for this time around. They all stink. 

[Surferdude]

Some people choose not to put any marks on the paper. Others draw little picturs on them - not always nice.

[eye30]

You have to register yourself at 18, onto the electoral roll, with you current address.

Is there a check to make sure 18 yo do in fact register or they can slip through

[Aussie Keith]

Oh dear, we do have our knickers in a knot, don't we. 
It seems to me that maybe you are all a bit worried that Krudd is in for the chop he deserves and we'll get some normality and common sense back to government. 
I can't wait. 

To paraphrase someone, parties don't win elections, governments lose them. That's how Labour got voted in and Johnny lost his seat isn't it. After being such a legend for all that time I mean.

I am hoping that poking yourself in the eye to teach the government a lesson isn't too painful. Alternatively it may be all butterflies and rainbows after the election. We can only hope that's the case whichever way it goes.

Well I think it's Labor's turn to lose this one.
Goodness knows they've done more than enough to be well and truly on the nose with the majority of voters over the past six long years.
So if the Libs win, we can blame Labor then, based on your comment above. 

Agreed. Its how it works.

[Aussie Keith]

I hear talk that the oz voting system requires all registered voters have to cast a vote and the paper gives you the option to not vote for any person.

Is that correct or can you simply not bother?

Also, non voters can be fined.
Again is that correct?

My understanding is that registered voters who don't vote will be pinged. Unregistered voters are in the clear since they are unregistered - no way for the electoral commission to track them.

[eye30]

I hear talk that the oz voting system requires all registered voters have to cast a vote and the paper gives you the option to not vote for any person.

Is that correct or can you simply not bother?

Also, non voters can be fined.
Again is that correct?

My understanding is that registered voters who don't vote will be pinged. Unregistered voters are in the clear since they are unregistered - no way for the electoral commission to track them.

Uk registration is changing in 2014 to individual registration.

Under the proposed new system, individuals would be asked to provide 'identifying information', such as a date of birth and national insurance number, when they apply to register. This would allow each person's application to be verified before they were added to the register. People who were unable to supply this information would be able to provide an alternative form of evidence of their identity.

[Aussie Keith]

And this is exactly why we should be afraid:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/joe-hockeys-please-explain-moment-20130805-2r8fh.html

[Doggie 1]

And this is exactly why we should be afraid:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/joe-hockeys-please-explain-moment-20130805-2r8fh.html

You're targeting your propaganda war in the wrong place. 

[Phil №❶]

You have to register yourself at 18, onto the electoral roll, with you current address.

Is there a check to make sure 18 yo do in fact register or they can slip through

I don't know, however, the Tax Office and Dept of Human Resources use a system called data matching to check accounts, so age information is invariably stored in their systems, it would be an easy matter to get information.

[rustynutz]

And this is exactly why we should be afraid:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/joe-hockeys-please-explain-moment-20130805-2r8fh.html

You're targeting your propaganda war in the wrong place. 

I agree, as all you Liberal lovers seem to be happy sticking your fingers in your ears and sprouting, "I'm not listening"!

[rustynutz]

Wow, that wouldn't be biased website, would it? 

Seems to be only pointing out Abbott's porkies, Dave...

Actually only looked at the first four words of the web site,then turned it off,because I knew it would all be simply one sided.

Nothing like burying your head in the sand, Rick....